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The Drum & Bass Thread (formally Drum 'n' Bass is dead?)
Posted on: 19.08.2008 by Random X
Every now and than, a musical genres foremost poet or pioneer will come forth claiming the style is dead.

We've already seen it in punk, hip hop, metal, rock and opera already.

Stupidest thing even, that this seems to be some kind of "retro- cycle" that passes along every decade.

With the coming of styles like dubstep amongst others, purists are really keen on claiming that these styles are no derative or subgenre of our beloved DnB.
Better yet, they utter the words "DnB is dead!"

If your own creative impulses can't cope with a style any longer, why claim it is dead in the first place? Couldn't it just evolve into other (sub)styles?
No, kill your idols instead!
There seems to be no better way to start something new, than completely destroy any relations with the past.

How can a genre with high BPM rates be dead, while comparing it to the ever so low BPM rates of the ever so vivid dubstep?
Ofcourse, BPM rates are not a factor in this case, but people listening and enjoying DnB are.
There are still heaps and heaps of bass-heads still jumping their shoes to the sounds of d&b pioneers as Krush, Bukem, Dom & Roland and all others still producing.

Agreed that the old spirit needs to be revived. Still, it's no reason to don the old lass after that much joy she has given us.

Drum and Bass is dead? It seems ever so vibrant as it was in 1996!
Ryan Morales
16.07.2009
Originally Posted by midifidler
I believe you can paraphrase that whole rant as;

"I'm not a sell-out, but I am a cunt!"

fuckin ozzies ![ducks]
lol. Pretty much. I kinda agree with him about the whole DoA community being a shitsmear hole in the ground filled with fucsticks who lack an open mind.

BUT that doesnt mean that the new Pendglem shit is any good DnB. Its not.

BUT Its different and I agree with what hes saying its not really trying to be DnB so fair enough. Still dont like it tho.

On another note. Untold is the fucking MAN!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oH4GI...related&fmt=18

Not sure if this will be you guys style, but I fucking love it. Ramadanman is also the bombdizzle. As is Jamie Vex'd and all those cunts making progressive bassheavy music. Including my main man from the land of Ire - Eomac.
Virginia Ortiz
16.07.2009
Originally Posted by JesterNZDJ
very interesting. I believe part of it is that when i was student for example (10 odd yar ago) drum and bass was stuck under a rock as far as exposure went, and thats how people liked it ya know. these days its one of the most popular genre (perhaps the most popular in NZ anyway) but there are still some elitist old school people that want it to remain underground. I've noticed this with the psy community too, that wont play any tunes that came out after 1998 ffs.
i'd hardly say dnb is the most popular edm genre in nz. we're just the best at it i can only say that from wat i see in the ig cities though. its like 20 electro or house bars for every 1 dnb/dubstep bar heh
but yea, i wonder if that elitism will have any effect on the coming age of digital. the auckland boys are pretty hell bent on the OG and the vinyl

Originally Posted by JesterNZDJ
Kudos to a band such as pendulum that can bring the genre to the masses, whilst still doing what they want to do, from what i read from the above post.
thats all very well, but he gets negative kudos for being a wank about it



how old are you by the way?
[you don't have to answer that ]
Adolf Hit
16.07.2009
I believe you can paraphrase that whole rant as;

"I'm not a sell-out, but I am a cunt!"

fuckin ozzies ![ducks]
Latoria Kavulich
15.07.2009
don't smoke crack kids
Virginia Ortiz
15.07.2009
Originally Posted by JesterNZDJ
Anyway, where's my pipe...
half an hour till 4.20 here i come
Latoria Kavulich
15.07.2009
very interesting. I believe part of it is that when i was student for example (10 odd yar ago) drum and bass was stuck under a rock as far as exposure went, and thats how people liked it ya know. these days its one of the most popular genre (perhaps the most popular in NZ anyway) but there are still some elitist old school people that want it to remain underground. I've noticed this with the psy community too, that wont play any tunes that came out after 1998 ffs. Kudos to a band such as pendulum that can bring the genre to the masses, whilst still doing what they want to do, from what i read from the above post. Anyway, where's my pipe...
Virginia Ortiz
15.07.2009
Virginia Ortiz
15.07.2009
For those of you who don't understand heated discussions that sometimes revolve around pendulum, this is an article that explains it (i got it from another community but it was origionally posted by them on the http://www.dogsonacid.com/ community )


Pendulum [a] have always been an act to drive debate and controversy within the drum & bass community.

Since ‘Hold Your Colour’ and their collaboration with Freestylers, many have seen this Australian dance act as being either too commercial or regarded as saviours of the scene.

This week, Pendulum release their new single ‘Granite’, a track from their forthcoming album that looks to drive the band more towards a live sound.

The track takes the act from their previous album, ‘Hold Your Colour’, and builds on their live elements.

Heavily present within this track are heavy guitars, full vocals and big drums; a hybrid between metal and drum & bass, which will appeal to some and not to others.

Many within the drum & bass community decided to label the act as a sell out.

This criticism was based on the act’s ability to sell records, hold sold out tours and leave behind their former indie label in order to move on to a bigger one.

Should this be considered selling out, or just the result of an act that produces great music that sells well?

After a lot of criticism on drum & bass community , Dogs on Acid, Pendulum decided to respond with this comment:

“Okay, I’ve had just about enough of this.

“I don’t mind when people aren’t particularly fond of our tracks - with every tune we make I go through different stages of loving it and hating it, so I can empathise with pretty much every comment made so far.

“The only comments I don’t get are the ones saying we’ve ‘sold out’.

“I define ‘selling out’ as not only making music for profit, but also making ANYTHING you don’t really want to make for ANY reason (including fame, pleasing fans, staying true to a genre, or un-necessarily repeating yourself out of fear of progression).

“The only way I believe I could have really ‘sold myself out’ is if I had made any more tracks that sounded like vault / another planet / still grey etc.

“Those tunes are cool for what they are, but I’ve moved on in both my musical taste / influences, and my ambitions for this group…

“If you want to blame anyone for our change in direction, blame Led Zeppelin, The Shadows, The Surf Coasters, Dead Kennedys, Dick Dale, Howlin’ Wolf, Weather Report, Tool, In Flames, Herb Alpert, Underoath and all the other stuff I’ve been listening to instead of drum and bass.

“We have fended the vultures off this project so much that it would probably fill a novel if I tried to explain it all.

“All I’ll say is, I wanted to make every single thing we’ve ever put out.

“Saying we ‘sold out’ is talking out your ass.

“I never wanted to make straight up dnb — it was never on the cards.

“Oh, and by the way - I’m not sure if drum and bass is dead or dying (I’ve been in the studio / on tour too long to tell).

“However, if your genre was flimsy enough to be knocked over by ONE SINGLE RECORDING ARTIST who happened to - god forbid - sell some fucking records for the first time in about 5/6 years, then I’m glad it was us that got to drive the final stake through its stale pig shit heart - and good riddance.

“Wake me up when your genre is making something that people outside the scene believe is worth listening to again.’

The whole response can be seen by visiting the Dogs on Acid community website.

In the meantime, check ‘Granite’ out now and judge for yourself.

But whatever you do, just don’t tell Pendulum [a] what you believe!

And hold your breath for the Dillinja remix coming soon.....
Latoria Kavulich
14.07.2009
+1 been waiting to hear sumthin from these lads for a while
Random X
14.07.2009
Cool, can't wait for the new upload bro!
Adolf Hit
14.07.2009
Here is Kaon & Tronics(me) latest promo mix

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=M1MB4UYF

Ill upload again once its mastered

1. Pyanoo - Eric Prydz (High Contrast Remix)
2.Airplane - Sub Focus
3.If We Ever - High Contrast
4.Tilling Fields - The Upbeats
5.Driving Insane - Black Sun Empire
6.Valentine - Spor
7.Smash - Evol Intent, The Upbeats, Ewun
8.Manipulated Living- Quadrant
9.Animal - Black Sun Empire, State of Mind
10.Quarks - Dirtyphonics
11.Night Vision - Skream's So Nasty Version
12.Disco Dodo - Lynx
13.Vulcanic - Cern, Misanthrop, Phace, Bulletproof
14.Horns & Halo's - Evol Intent
15.Ladies Night (VIP) - Demo, Cease
16.Neo - Hive (Remix)
17.Supernova - Spor
Verona Fashbaugh
14.07.2009
Originally Posted by Damien1138
This chuuuune is ill
Oh so ill, so ill.

Where can I learn to dance like that? Forget DJing, I'm all about throwing it down like that.

The "translation" makes that vid btw

Edit: Anyone else believe that guy looks like the dude from blade at the beginning when he's first walking up rolling up his sleeves? I need that jacket!
Random X
13.07.2009
Buffallax is teh pwn D!
Virginia Ortiz
13.07.2009
Originally Posted by Tekki
Just give me a permanent job and I'll get over and stay permanently.
(Import Kiwi so to speak. )
heh, wat damien said. our unemployment rate is the worst its ever been i believe. conveniently timed ofr me to start believeing about going on the benefit
sinior cliff
13.07.2009
This chuuuune is ill
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZA1NoOOoaNw
Random X
13.07.2009
And Americans always Blame Canada, according to South Park.
sinior cliff
13.07.2009
Originally Posted by Tekki
Just give me a permanent job and I'll get over and stay permanently.
(Import Kiwi so to speak. )
been trying to find a permanent job out in wellies myself since I got back... no luck tho. Looks like world wide economy is shit and we can thank bush admin for that one a.
Random X
13.07.2009
Just give me a permanent job and I'll get over and stay permanently.
(Import Kiwi so to speak. )
Virginia Ortiz
12.07.2009
gonna make some massive noise at this one! you're all invited, i suggest airplane-pooling it'll work out cheaper
Latoria Kavulich
12.07.2009
I have that album! your in the jungle baby my first attempt at mixing d n b on saturday evening , no gridding or anything pretty much with the eyes closed did ok tho
Virginia Ortiz
12.07.2009
im wondering how smash tv would DD over stigma?
Susy Toerner
12.07.2009
Originally Posted by midifidler
I'm pretty sure Damien has that tune, you should ask him
Found it mate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOSESeSkVI0


Absolutely loving it!
Random X
11.07.2009
Originally Posted by Kaon
not dnb but, ROOOOOAAAARRRR

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiwjEpevXFs
Killer track Brrrruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu!
Adolf Hit
11.07.2009
I'm pretty sure Damien has that tune, you should ask him
Susy Toerner
11.07.2009
I heard a song in a shop today, it sounded quite like noisia. The part i reckonises though was a sample from guns and roses "Welcome to the jungle". It was axl saying them exact lines.

Any idea of this tune?
Virginia Ortiz
05.07.2009
not dnb but, ROOOOOAAAARRRR

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiwjEpevXFs
Andriy Gavrysh
05.07.2009
Originally Posted by midifidler
aaaaaaaaaaaww - i GOTTA have that tune!!
wth, this ones a killer, reeeally like it!
Harold Jaras
03.07.2009
the song that got me into dnb:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXAGHTrimUg

or is this jungle?
Adolf Hit
03.07.2009
Not quite as heavy but this tunes been doing it for me in the last week.

party party party

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssQmR...eature=related

cant wait to play this one out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBgArsOUbEo
Graham Frazier
03.07.2009
One of my all time favorites....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfO4GlT_dRY
Even though it's not that old.
Andriy Gavrysh
24.06.2009
i know these aren't the newest track, thought i'd post them here anyways:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8atttNi8Pk

and nice as usual the cooh remix:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJwkOnW6iQ8
Dj Daxsen
24.06.2009
well i've had a little hiatus from djtt for a few months and as strong as this thread was i didn't expect it to still be rockin the front page!

keep it going boys i gotta go back and catch up on the pages i've missed. lookin forward to hearin some sick tracks as i read.
Andriy Gavrysh
23.06.2009
Originally Posted by Kotyara
jump up really sucks n boring.
actually i like it - i don't believe it's boring...
it's like with every other subgenre of dnb and it's like with every other genre out there - every type of music has got some good tracks, you just gotta find them

Originally Posted by Lauchsound
this is sick. you've good a good taste of music there, bento
gotta say Lauchsound's totally right on this! that's some phat tune... looked for it at beatport, but i didn't find it - too bad they only got so few future signal tunes!
Charline Dunch
23.06.2009
Originally Posted by BentoSan
!!! uber phat choonage !!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvuGhxpn4dc

!!! uber phat choonage !!!
this is sick. you've good a good taste of music there, bento
Yvone Kanatzar
23.06.2009
jump up really sucks n boring. Can give u realy interestin jump up dat doesnt look like one made by some kind of "aphrodite generator"
Charline Dunch
23.06.2009
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMLt8rHE5UU

geez. gotta love muffler.
Andriy Gavrysh
19.06.2009
that's some really nice dubstep!
just listen to a few dubstep tunes - there are many out there in this style...

btw, speaking of dubstep:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofS1S_JDLLc

what a damn sic track
i heard this tune many times here, but never heard it be played in a "cafe" style bar on friday evening (last weekend i did)
Verona Fashbaugh
18.06.2009
^^ Bento, that is suuuuch a dope as song!!!

Even know it might not exactly be dnb, anyone got a recommendations for songs similar to Mistabishi's White Collar Grime:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfhWMMAyuD0
Xavier Emanuels
18.06.2009
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJ5OulTYzK0
!!!!!! choooooooooooooon !!!!!!
Towanda Rayment
17.06.2009
Originally Posted by Kaon
lol. seems like every genre except trance is dead then
quote mastah

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